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Trump to Mike Lindell: ‘I threw away all my Keep America Great hats’

By: - November 17, 2021 12:55 pm

Mike Lindell interviews Donald Trump on Nov. 4. Screenshot from

Minnesota pillow mogul Mike Lindell “interviewed” former President Donald Trump, although the men spent most of the 35-minute session blasting the media and claiming the 2020 election was rigged and stolen. 

The interview was taped at Mar-a-Lago Nov. 4. It aired Tuesday night on a website called

Lindell opened by saying he was interviewing “our real president.” Rather than ask questions, Lindell and Trump mostly commiserated about how corrupt media “colluded” with evil Democrats to steal the 2020 election. 

At one point, Lindell said he wanted to melt down voting machines and make them into prison bars.

Lindell continues to spin election conspiracy theories even though he’s being sued by Dominion Voting Systems for promoting the baseless allegations that Dominion rigged the election for President Joe Biden.

They talked about all the people who have disappointed them (such as former Attorney General William Barr, U.S. Sen. Mitch McConnell, Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp and Vice President Mike Pence) for failing to go along with their conspiracy theories.

Trump said it was harder being “attacked from every angle” by the “dangerous” left wing than running the country. 

“I had to run the country and I had to survive and to survive was by far the tougher,” Trump said.

Although Trump claimed he’s not thinking about 2024 until the 2020 election is “fixed,” he made clear what his message will be if he runs: He claimed he made America energy independent and rebuilt the military, while President Joe Biden “destroyed the country” within nine months. 

He hammered on inflation, Biden’s nixing of the Keystone XL Pipeline permit, supply-chain disruption, the economy and the U.S. pullout of Afghanistan, which he called “the most embarrassing moment for our country in history.” 

He criticized Biden for not sanctioning a German company building a pipeline to carry natural gas from Russia to Germany — a project the U.S. has opposed for years even as it nears completion.

“You know I say ‘Make America Great Again,’ that was my theme and it was going to be ‘Keep America Great.’ I gave that away,  threw them all away, the hats. It’s not because America is not great now. America is a laughingstock all over the world.” 

He claimed Biden could have finished “the wall” on the border with Mexico within two weeks. 

“It was almost open,” he claimed, falsely. While his administration claimed it built more than 400 miles of walls, a recent BBC analysis found only 80 miles of new barriers were built and the rest rebuilt existing walls. 

Lindell said the Biden administration skipped socialism and went straight to communism. 

He repeatedly tried to get Trump to reveal where he gets his “emotional strength,” but Trump would quickly pivot to his usual political punches, from “impeachment hoaxes” to bashing Hillary Clinton. 

Asked how he felt when he was kicked off Twitter, Trump said “it was terrible” to wake up one day and lose “that voice” where he had “massive numbers” of followers.

But to hear Trump and Lindell tell it, people all over the country are waking up to believe the election was stolen and Trump wants to “fix” the 2020 election before talking about 2024.

“You look at Arizona, we don’t need all those states,” Trump said. “​​We need two big ones and three small ones… you can have two big ones or you can have three small ones, something like that.” 

In other words, if he could have just won those states, he’d have beat Biden.

Even though Lindell has repeatedly made predictions that didn’t come true — that Trump would be reinstated as president in August, for example — he now says “God’s had his hand in all this” and people’s eyes are opening as “we’ve seen evil rise up.”

“Do you think we’ll be able to beat the media?” Lindell asked Trump.

Trump said he thinks they are getting their voices out anyway. 

And even though Trump claims the election was stolen, he sometimes slips and says things like, “we lost by so little.” He also said there’s no way half the country could possibly support an agenda of “no voter ID, defund the police and sanctuary cities.”

After being praised by Lindell throughout the interview, Trump called Lindell “so brave” and “an incredible patriot.” 

Lindell then thanked Trump for being “the greatest president we ever had.” 

“We’re gonna take back our country,” Trump replied.

Lindell announced after the interview that a group of attorneys general are going to “sue the government” on Nov. 23, and LindellTV will livestream the spectacle for 96 hours straight. 

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Deena Winter
Deena Winter

Deena Winter has covered local and state government in four states over the past three decades, with stints at the Bismarck Tribune in North Dakota, as a correspondent for the Denver Post, city hall reporter in Lincoln, Nebraska, and regional editor for Southwest News in the western Minneapolis suburbs. Before joining the staff of the Reformer in 2021 she was a contributor to the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times. She and her husband have a daughter, son, and very grand child. In her spare time, she likes to play tennis, jog, garden and attempt to check out all the best restaurants in the metro area.